Annotations for Interviewee: Dali

Because for this kind of eccentricities correspond with more important and the more tragical part of my life.

The more philosophical.

Because discover and make one tremendous speech, a most scientific in the Sorbonne in Paris... of what my discovering of the logarithmic curve of cauliflower.

logarithmic curve of cauliflower.

And if in time the logarithmic curve in the horns of rhinoceros -- in this time discover, this is a symbol of chastity, one of the most powerful symbols of modern times.

In my opinion it is the more... urgent and the more dramatic because the chastity represents the force of spirit.... chaste in any religion, you know because of promiscuity, the people make love, there is no more the spiritual strength, no more the spiritual thoughts.

Because I think there is nothing like it. The audience understand Dali when penetrate in the bottom of the sea...

Penetrate.

In the bottom of subconscient mean... sea... In-- inside the sea.

In the depth of the sub-conscious.

Exactly. The sea is one very clear symbol for arriving this stage of...

Because incidentally, make one movie in France, only it is movie of myself dance Charleston and my friends look this piece of movie at all, Dali in this part is much better than Charlie Chaplin. For me is very interesting...

...because you see in Dali is one marvelous painter, in living time is one marvelous clown... much more interesting for everybody

If it is possible, live two together is very good, you know. Charlie Chaplin is one genial clown but never painted like Dali, Charlie Chaplin's living times paint masterpieces. Or is thousand times much more important to Charlie Chaplin.

In many different fields, you know.

Yes.

The most important in my life, modern clown, modern painting, modern draftsmanship is my personality.

My personality?

My personality is more important than any of these little facets of my activities.

Is my personality.

The painting, the clowning, the showmanship, the technique - everything is only one manner for express the total personality of Dali.

This is very important because myself work constantly in the moment of sleep... Every of my best ideas coming through my dreams and the more Dalian activity consists in this moment of sleep.

The most important things happen in the moment of myself in sleep...

No, Dali. Of course, the cosmogony of Dali.

Cosmogony of Dali.

This is in advance of a new nuclear physics, because every of my paintings, everybody laugh in the moment of look for the first time but almost after twelve years every scientific people recognize the area of this painting is one real prophecy in the moment of painting my soft watches, the more rigid object for everybody, and myself paint these watches in the soft Camembert-- everybody laugh. The last development of nuclear physics proved to a new conception of space-time is completely flexible. Now it is in microphysics the time brought in reverse and this proved that this object of completely surrealistic approach of soft watches for what is completely true and scientific...

Every painter paints the cosmogony of himself.

Raphael paint because of the cosmogony of Raphael. Raphael is the Renaissance period. Dali paint the atomic age and the Freudian age nuclear things and psychologic things.

First Dali, after Dali, Picasso, after this, no others.

The two geniuses of modern painting.

Because luxury is one product of monarchy, and myself every day becoming more monarchy, not in a political way because never is Dali interested in political... but...

In the philosophical and cosmological...

Yes, because in the modern sense, the new discoveries of chromosomes and physics and biology, everything through the monarchy is the most luxurious things in life...

.....and the most perfect.

Because the little young peoples completely stupid, you know.

They all only believe geniuses are old people (like) Leonardo de Vinci or arrive at some real achievement.

Because in the modern physics everything is weak, every proton and neutron is surrounded of weakness, of nothing. In this moment the most fantastic thing in physics is le anti-matter. Every new physician talk about anti-matter, and Dali paint, 20 years ago, le first anti-matter angels.

This is one feeling everything is erotic in my opinion.

Erotic.

...is ugly, in the middle of everything ugly so arrive the feeling of death, everything becomes noble and sublime.

And beautiful. You know for instance, you, Micky Wallace, now is you a little good pay, a little handsome, but essentially, you becoming death, everybody tips his chapeau to you, you become fantastic man, everybody respects you a thousand times much better.

Exactly. See you make one strip tease, you become ugly in one second.

myself not believe in my death.

No, no believe in general in death but in the death of Dali absolutely not. Believe in my death becoming very -- almost impossible.

Yes.

Exactly......because Dali is contradictory and paradoxical man.

Because there is no sufficient convenience of my faith in religion. In the moment of myself believe more ?

Exactly.

This is true,

Because...perhaps it is my early intellectual training and information. But now every day is more approach of this real feeling of religion. Just one month ago-- is one tremendous operation of appendix - a broken appendix. After this operation becoming three times more religious than before.

Never remember exactly, but 54 or 53 or something.

Every day more, but is no sufficient...

Visionary things - but no supernatural.

Yes, because remind very very superstitious but this is- I'm sure is is common of every Spanish people, you know. Spanish people is very superstitious.

Yes, but no - not particularly care of this. Because, for me the important thing is look - the philosophical event of every moment. And now is absolutely sure for instance, monarchy is restored in Spain very shortly.

Prince Juan Carlos and Franco agree on its restoration. Is absolutely convincing the monarchy coming back in France very shortly after one military mayor or perhaps one De Gaulle or another....

Mr. Nixon. Yes, yes - but, but what is possible now - what is possible perhaps tomorrow you put this in quick question and...

My manner of expend my time - is the more joy, the more delightful is becoming every day - a little more - Dali.

Because in the beginning of my life, you remember in like at becoming Napoleon...

Cook and woman - one woman cooking.

Exactly ... a woman cooking. Second, like of becoming Napoleon.

A little one like it becoming Dali. And now is every day more Dali.

Well I remember very clearly many mansions. How so - not only in black and white but in glorious technicolor....technicolor.

At some phosphorous and x-luminous-x.....I told these visions to Doctor Freud in London. Freud tell me that it is absolutely true - is the region of intra-uterine memories. Probably my position - fetal position, my pupils is very hurt by my hands. Depend on my position.

Ah - it was completely paradise.

From this moment the more divine nature - in the moment of born is the moment of the paradise is lost. This is an ethereal ...

This is my hope. But is not absolutely sure. This is the trouble. You see, the death is again the regain of this paradise - this is excellent, but is not, not sure.

I enjoy my life every day more.

Every week more. Because of Sir Dali - and my admiration for Dali is becoming tremendous.

Every time is very agreeable and creative. The last dreams is about the anti-matter angels. Perhaps for five months only dream about archangels, angels, kings and the most beautiful spectacular.

I don't understand - mild?

Everybody love Dali very much.

But they pick on him.

Exactly. But this is my adolescence period. Now becoming much more quiet in these kind of sadistic things.

As a contrary - after my religious feelings becoming more strong - these sadistic things of my adolescence disappeared almost completely.

No - now every of this has disappear because every of my libido now is simply made in the religion and the mysticism.

Because in this moment of weakness in this moment Dali is true is almost crazy before met Gala. My, my brain is very close of one sick pathologic brain.

In this moment liked seduce Gala in the most terrific manner. I believe from the smell is a more attractive manner for seduce Gala. Gala becoming in love with me appears as probably the real ...Gala created the real mysticism or the real classicist of my adult life.

Oh perhaps 20 or more, but is still in love with Gala - more than in the beginning. That is something that nobody believe. Perhaps - Dali never make love avec one other woman than Gala.

And the people never believe because - everybody....

Yes, but there is no... you should believe - it's very frequent. But the other people don't think it's very exceptional.

And now my obsession is the chastity, because....

...is more important for religious belief.

Merci.